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Задаю его всем вменяемым выходцам из Восточного региона (У меня, если что, один из партнеров сбежал от народной демократии в ЛНР\ДНР, причем потерял все, что нажил за жизнь и все равно доволен): какова конечная цель всего, что творится? Не понимаю.
Понятно, России там не будет. Понятно, самостоятельного государства никто не планировал. Никто никого не угнетал, ни о какой защите русских речь не шла - это придумано для недоумков из России, которые на Донбассе в жизни не были. Все эти разговоры о народном восстании и гневе не выдерживают критики. Любви к Януковичу я тоже не замечал. Рассматривать вариант превращения дончан и луганчан в платных агентов Москвы я не стану. Глупостями не занимаюсь.
Остается вопрос - нахрена было уничтожать целый регион не имея ни цели, ни плана, по надуманному поводу? Зачем было уничтожать собственную жизнь? Крым чесался?
Ни одного внятного ответа я не получил. Ни одного. Еще раз - в то, что все продались, не верю. В то, что можно было организовать "весь этот джаз" не опираясь на местных, тоже не верю.
Массовое сумасшествие? Помрачение? ХЗ. Факт на лицо и очень печальный факт.
Во всей этой истории мне жаль людей. Обманутых, изгнанных из собственных домов, лишенных средств к существованию.
Год назад я ЛИЧНО наблюдал в Донбассе мирную, нормальную, в разной степени благополучную жизнь. Так же было и во Львове, и в Ужгороде, и в Киеве. Разница в том, что везде жизнь таковой и осталось - а вот в Донбассе случилась перманентная жопа. Если виноват Майдан, как им внушают лидеры, то почему там, где он был, все более-менее, а вот там, где был Антимайдан случился пипец. И то, что одни украинцы гибнут из-за помрачения у других, выгодно только России, которая пытается оставить Украину в сфере своего влияния. И ради этой мифической сферы влияния ввязалась в такую авантюру, которая будет ей икаться еще лет 100. И за амбиции соседа отвечает не только сосед, а еще и миллионы людей, которым вполне неплохо жилось, никакого отношения к авантюре не имевших. Их жизнями оплачивают имперские мечты и реанимацию СССР-2, только говорят о братстве, единстве и защите. А в это время о благополучной жизни можно уже забыть на пару десятков лет, если не навсегда и провалиться в такую задницу, что ее и задницей не назовешь, так как из букв Ж О П А и слово СЧАСТЬЕ не составишь.
И хватит ли ума у дончан и луганчан понять, что это за жопа и как они туда попали, и кто в этом виноват - я не знаю.

Вопрос "как мы сможем жить вместе дальше?" я пока не ставлю. Ответа на него нет. Во всяком случае, у меня.

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boldogg
Mar. 23rd, 2015 10:40 am (UTC)
Полтора года назад на всей Украине была нормальная жизнь.

Так и зачем всё было это устраивать - это в самом деле вопрос.
bither
Mar. 23rd, 2015 10:45 am (UTC)
она и осталась нормальной. Только у долбоклювов она ненормальная.
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hero_sima
Mar. 23rd, 2015 10:40 am (UTC)
А как Вам такой вариант, что 95% таки дебилы с большей или меньшей степеней олигофрении (не верите спросите у врачей).
Кучка подонков очень круто наварилась на несчастных олигофренах.
много-кто поднял капитал кто в валюте, кто политический.
а народ, тупой и безмозглый - должен страдать.
думать не умеет, живет глупыми стадными инстинктами.
кто поумнее - давно уже здесь, за линией фронта.
7x24
Mar. 23rd, 2015 11:11 am (UTC)
Судя по свежим роликам из Славянска (опрос украинским ТВ местных жителей о президентах России и Украины) и, особенно, из Константиновки (ДТП и его последствия) - дело обстоит именно так.
Пережившие такую же оккупацию земляки-НКМЗеки тоже ни фига не поняли. Клиника...
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sevibor
Mar. 23rd, 2015 10:41 am (UTC)
Донецк и Луганск

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Донецк и Луганск. Беженцы.
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evgeny_leskov
Mar. 23rd, 2015 06:11 pm (UTC)
Re: Донецк и Луганск
Дочитал по ссылке до : заморенных голодомором украинцев (счет шел на миллионы!!!)... и понял, что дальше то и читать не стоит. Опять песня про голодомор. Ну вот когда украинцы поймут, что единственная нация, которая имеет право страдать в масштабах планеты, это евреи. И куда украинцы со своим выдуманным голодомором лезете? Место занято давно и безнадежно.
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dataneversleeps
Mar. 23rd, 2015 10:41 am (UTC)
"Если виноват Майдан, как им внушают лидеры, то почему там, где он был, все более-менее, а вот там, где был Антимайдан случился пипец."

На этот вопрос уже ответили тысячу раз.
Потому, что "антимайдановцы" не бомбили мирные украинские города, а вот "майдановцы" как раз это и начали.
ukrfan
Mar. 23rd, 2015 12:27 pm (UTC)
так прям ни с того, ни с сего?
Странные они. эти майдановцы.
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taiko2
Mar. 23rd, 2015 10:44 am (UTC)
"Понятно, России не будет".

Эвона как забористо. Будь я на вашей волне, непременно попросил бы отсыпать волшебства, а так - банальная пропаганда ДВП.
bither
Mar. 23rd, 2015 10:47 am (UTC)
Россия взяла к себе Донбасс?
Но ваш образ мысли внушает мне оптимизм. Думаете в правильном направлении.
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krivda
Mar. 23rd, 2015 10:45 am (UTC)
как вы думаете, если по городам днепровской области будут полгода долбить из артиллерии, начнется ли там разруха?

Так и тут: причина не ДНР/ЛНР, а в артиллерии.
zoycha
Mar. 23rd, 2015 10:50 am (UTC)
Т. е. вот на пустом месте без всяких на то причин начали долбить артой по городам?
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